PPO and the GRPO baseline studied here use clipped surrogate objectives whose favorable-direction saturation introduces an abrupt change in the scalar objective's derivative. We ask whether Output Reset (OR), a smooth one-sided saturation rule, offers a useful alternative for large language model post-training. PPO-OR and GRPO-OR replace the clipped policy term with an OR squared-margin loss in rollout-relative token log-ratio space; the advantage sign determines the update direction, and a token contributes zero direct OR residual after crossing the favorable margin. We compare PPO-clip with PPO-OR under generalized advantage estimation (GAE), and GRPO with GRPO-OR under group-relative advantages, using \texttt{Llama-3.2-1B-Instruct} on Anthropic \texttt{hh-rlhf} with one shared reward model and three seeds per method. Under GAE, PPO-OR has a mean final training-time reward-model score $0.305$ higher than PPO-clip, with a larger observed across-seed spread. Under group-relative advantages, GRPO-OR does not have a higher mean score, but shows a smaller observed spread, a near-zero terminal OR residual, and a declining overshoot fraction, while the matched GRPO clipped-objective trace remains variable. Both group-relative methods exhibit substantially larger rollout-to-current log-ratio displacement than the GAE methods, and OR does not consistently reduce it. Thus, OR changes optimization behavior in both matched comparisons, but the observed reward effect differs between them. At $G=2$, the GRPO-OR diagnostics do not translate into a reward-score gain. Whether larger groups change this outcome remains open. The reported scores are training-time reward-model measurements, not held-out human-preference performance.
I-SDPO (Instance-Level Adaptive Self-Distillation Policy Optimization), which treats teacher reliance as capability-dependent and uses imitation only where group-relative rewards are uninformative, obtains the best result in all four scientific domains.
Yubo Zhang, Xin-Hong Ma, Zezhong Tan et al.· 0 citations
Group Relative Policy Optimization (GRPO) has shown strong effectiveness in reinforcement learning from verifiable feedback, where sampled rollouts can be compared within a group using task-provided correctness signals. However, extending group-relative optimization beyond verifiable settings is challenging because success in many tasks is not captured by a single correctness criterion. We propose \textbf{Reference-Relative Policy Optimization (RRPO)}, which generalizes GRPO by replacing direct correctness-based advantage construction with reference-relative contrastive comparisons. RRPO first uses \emph{stratified conditional rollouts} to construct positive and negative anchor sets, and then trains a metric projection head with a set-contrastive objective to compare candidate rollouts against these anchors. The resulting alignment scores directly define contrastive advantages: during policy optimization, the projection head is frozen, and the scores are centered within each rollout group in a standard group-relative objective. We evaluate RRPO using anchor-based contrastive advantages throughout policy optimization, without relying on task ground-truth verifiers. Across verifiable reasoning, open-ended generation, and post-SFT settings, RRPO remains competitive with verifier-based optimization, improves over weakly supervised baselines, and provides additional gains after supervised fine-tuning.
Group relative policy optimization for reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR) typically uses a fixed importance-sampling (IS) ratio clipping boundary across all rollouts. We identify a key limitation: rare correct rollouts on harder problems and abundant correct rollouts on easier problems are clipped at comparable rates, despite contributing very different learning signals. Rollouts with low group success exhibit larger IS ratios and carry stronger gradient signal for exploration and solving new problems, yet are disproportionately suppressed by fixed clipping. To address this, we propose Group Adaptive Clipping Policy Optimization (GAPO), a plug-in modification to GRPO methods that adapts the clipping boundary to the rollout advantage. GAPO is motivated by a reverse-KL trust-region perspective, which suggests that rollouts with larger learning signal should receive proportionally greater update headroom. GAPO requires no reward shaping and preserves the standard PPO/GSPO surrogate while adapting only the clipping threshold. Across Qwen and Llama models, GAPO consistently improves both Pass@1 and Pass@k over fixed clipping and advantage-shaping baselines on math reasoning and coding benchmarks where the pass rates by the base model are relatively low.
Sheng Jia, Xiao Wang, S. Kasiviswanathan et al.· 0 citations
This paper introduces a novel reward-model-free, critic-free, and gradient-based PbRL algorithm compatible with segment preferences named Segment Pairwise Proximal Policy Optimization (SP3O), and provides a theoretical basis for the algorithm and analyze the tradeoff in choosing the segment length.
Group Relative Policy Optimization (GRPO) is widely studied for reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards, where its advantage estimator assigns each rollout a magnitude from within-group reward statistics. In the common case, this magnitude rewards rollouts that reach the correct answer through reasoning. Yet, an overlooked case shares the same surface: a rollout may land on it by guessing, and the formula still assigns a high magnitude, which we identify as the spurious advantage. This arises in three cases: bounded-answer tasks with a small candidate set; open-answer sets hosting bounded sub-cases; and search agents whose budget opens many paths to the same answer. In all three, this misleads the policy toward guess-like behaviors. We propose SIGNBALANCE, whose magnitude is composition-free: it keeps the verifier sign, uses a global scale, and restores zero-mean balance via a stop-gradient per-class rescaling. Across math and search agent benchmarks at different scales, SIGNBALANCE matches GRPO on open-answer math and improves on bounded-answer math and search agents. Code will be released.
Jiamian Wang, Samyadeep Basu, Koustava Goswami et al.· 0 citations
In reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR) trained with group relative policy optimization (GRPO), the KL-free reward-advantage term studied here depends on within-group reward variation. If all rollouts in a group are correct or all are wrong, their group-relative advantages are identically zero; these zero-advantage silent groups provide no reward-advantage gradient, yet uniform sampling spends 39% of a run's rollouts on them. History-based prompt selection must first spend target-policy rollouts to estimate difficulty, creating a cold start with rollout waste; ThinkPrior instead uses an external anchor in one offline pass to construct a zero-rollout difficulty prior before the first target-policy rollout. The verifier-scored anchor pass rate supplies an external-anchor initialization for a Beta posterior; ThinkPrior selects by expected learnability and then updates from training outcomes, changing neither the loss nor the optimizer. On Qwen2.5-Math-7B across sixteen seeds, ThinkPrior more than halves early silent groups and cuts wasted rollouts through step 30 by nearly a fifth, while we detect no difference in final accuracy. On this 250-prompt pool the fixed-budget result is a reallocation rather than a net saving. The measured ThinkPrior+DAPO composition reduces generated rollouts by 10.6% while both arms retain the same 3840-rollout update budget. The prior requires no target-policy rollout before the first selection, but the posterior thereafter uses target-policy outcomes.
Tommy Sha, Skylar Zhai, Si-Qi Zhao· 0 citations
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