It is found that Muon does not consistently outperform AdamW in this setting and that several previously reported advantages are sensitive to hyperparameter choices, providing a more nuanced picture of when spectrum-aware orthogonalization is beneficial and arguing for evaluating modern optimizers on controlled problems in addition to end-to-end benchmarks.
Abstract
Muon has recently emerged as a strong optimizer for large-scale deep learning, where it reshapes gradient updates through approximate orthogonalization and has been reported to outperform Adam and AdamW in large language model training. Its empirical success has motivated a growing body of theoretical work that interprets Muon as steepest descent under the spectral norm. Yet it remains unclear which of Muon's advantages stem from its update rule itself and which are artifacts of the scale, architecture, and data of modern deep networks. In this work, we isolate the optimizer from these confounding factors by studying Muon on a simple, well-understood, and spectrally structured problem: low-rank matrix factorization. Through a controlled comparison against carefully tuned adaptive baselines, we find that Muon does not consistently outperform AdamW in this setting and that several previously reported advantages are sensitive to hyperparameter choices. Our results provide a more nuanced picture of when spectrum-aware orthogonalization is beneficial and argue for evaluating modern optimizers on controlled problems in addition to end-to-end benchmarks.
Spectral-Aware Muon is introduced, which holds the head at the Muon scale and amplifies the bulk using a static spectral prior, and both variants outperform tuned AdamW and Muon (Scion implementation) baselines in all evaluated model-scale and batch-size configurations.
Xiaodong Wu, Wen-Yi Yu, Chao Zhang et al.· 1 citation
PoLoRA is introduced, a Preconditioned Orthogonalized LoRA optimizer built from three ingredients: a product-aware spectral update direction, curvature preconditioning derived from controlling the per-sample loss change, and a magnitude rule that controls the sizes of both the factor and merged updates.
Nikhil Ghosh, Tetiana Parshakova, Robert M. Gower· arXiv.org· 1 citation
Periodic Row-wise Muon is introduced, which performs a full NS5 spectral update once every \(K\) steps and applies a low compute and communication cost row-wise constrained update based on the current momentum at the remaining steps to preserve Muon's generative quality advantage while translating it into end-to-end tr...
Chenghao Li, Xiao Han, Xin-Xin Huang et al.· 0 citations
This thesis develops a principled grounding for Adam and motivates new designs, and reveals new local structures in matrix-based nonconvex problems, and helps understand and improve recent NN optimizers, such as Muon.
A unified framework built on a single idealizing assumption -- exact scale invariance of the loss under weight rescaling, which holds approximately in normalization-heavy networks is proposed.
Across ImageNet-1K experiments on ViT-Small/16 and ResNet-50, it is found that the combination of a spectral inner step with a Muon outer step performs consistently strongly, achieving the best validation accuracy on both models among the evaluated methods.
Wenzhi Zhong, Edward Milsom, Michael Murray· arXiv.org· 0 citations
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