Small models are made more capable through distillation from a larger one that shares their tokenization scheme. However, do distilled byte and token models behave similarly in terms of scaling trends as compute and data increases? To enable this comparison, we introduce two variants to efficiently convert token logits to Byte Logits: 1) approximate: Marginalize-It, and 2) exact: End-Of-Token. We then present the first large scale study of overtraining decoder-only dense transformer models varying two dimensions simultaneously: the tokenization scheme (Tokens, Bytes, Bytes w/ eot) and the training objective (Distillation vs. Cross-Entropy), sweeping layer-parameter-matched models with roughly 1 billion parameters up to 1 trillion bytes of data. Across eight benchmarks spanning three categories: Multiple Choice QA, Language Generation, and Machine Translation, we find that Token-1B models outperform byte models (End-Of-Token-1B and Bytes-1B) in the low-FLOP regime but eventually plateau; byte models start worse yet surpass Token-1B models with more compute, reaching a higher downstream task performance ceiling. Extrapolating the average top-1 error vs. validation BPB scaling laws predicts that, asymptotically, distilled End-Of-Token-1B outperforms distilled Token-1B by up to 4%. They are also far more data efficient, matching the performance of distilled Token-1B using only one-sixth of the training data. Moreover, by operating over a small vocabulary of 256 bytes instead of on the order of 100K tokens, they circumvent the need for top-k truncation during logit dumping, while also reducing logit storage costs to roughly one-fifth. Finally, our downstream performance scaling laws predict that our distilled End-Of-Token-1B models asymptotically surpass the Llama 3.2-1B, Gemma-3-1B-pt, and Gemma 2B models on averaged downstream tasks by up to 6.5%, 8.1%, and 2.1%, respectively.
Kalyani Marathe, Artidoro Pagnoni, Tomasz Limisiewicz et al.· 0 citations
Logit-based knowledge distillation (KD) is used to train smaller language models (LMs) via supervision from stronger teachers, but whether its benefits are consistent across training stages remains unclear. Through controlled experiments, we find that forward Kullback-Leibler (KL) distillation--the standard KD formulation--with post-trained teachers behaves fundamentally differently during mid-training, an intermediate phase of self-supervised learning on curated corpora. Surprisingly, while forward KD simultaneously improves reasoning and factual recall during pre-training relative to standard next-token prediction (NTP), it instead slows factual recall acquisition during mid-training despite continued reasoning gains. We trace this stage dependence to an asymmetry in teacher confidence across data domains and the student's evolving knowledge state: teachers are more confident on procedural than knowledge-intensive data, while students acquire low-entropy factual knowledge earlier in training. To mitigate this imbalance, we propose Switch Distillation, a simple mid-training objective that distills on tokens where the teacher is confident, using teacher predictive entropy as a lightweight routing signal, and otherwise falls back to cross-entropy. Switch Distillation consistently outperforms existing distillation objectives across teacher sizes. Relative to standard NTP, it achieves 1.61-1.71x the reasoning performance and 1.13-1.19x the knowledge and commonsense performance while preserving 96.7-96.8% of factual recall. Crucially, these benefits persist after post-training: Switch Distillation closes the factual recall gap while maintaining 1.25-1.32x and 1.13-1.20x gains in reasoning and knowledge and commonsense, respectively.
Jacqueline He, Howard Yen, S. Li et al.· 0 citations
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