Large language models (LLMs) are often post-trained on pre-collected reasoning trajectories to improve their reasoning capability. Such trajectories tend to be long due to complex, interwoven paths, which often include detours on the path toward the answer. However, it has been underexplored whether LLMs indeed benefit from learning complete trajectories in post-training, such as supervised fine-tuning (SFT). Starting from our pilot study, we find that full trajectories provide only limited benefit, while partial trajectories are effective even under heavy truncation. We analyze redundancy in reasoning trajectories through attention-based analyses and controlled token-removal studies, both of which show that intermediate tokens contribute minimally to final reasoning quality. This suggests that avoiding redundant information may allow LLMs to internally infer coherent alternatives by inferring missing steps from their internal knowledge, given known trajectory endpoints. Furthermore, we show that training LLMs using endpoints leads to consistent changes in reasoning behavior, and that it also benefits post-training methods based on reinforcement learning or on-policy distillation, highlighting the need to revisit complete reasoning traces. Code is available at https://github.com/naver-ai/revisiting-trace.
Jaehui Hwang, Sangdoo Yun, Byeongho Heo et al.· 0 citations
Reasoning in large language models unfolds through diverse functional operations, such as problem formulation, goal decomposition, and deduction. Although these operations are explicitly distinguished in text, little is known about how they are geometrically organized in representation spaces. To this end, we investigate whether distinct reasoning operations exhibit corresponding geometric structure in hidden representations. We find that operations are separable in held-out representations, with separability peaking in middle layers, and verify that this structure is not explained by lexical or positional confounds. Across layers, token-wise operation-alignment becomes more distributed over spans, while identical surface tokens are represented differently depending on the operation of its surrounding chunk. Attention-masking interventions further show that operation-aligned representations at chunk onset depend on preceding reasoning context. Consequently, our work demonstrates that language models maintain representational correspondence between linguistic reasoning expressions and their internal geometric structures. Code and project materials are available at https://github.com/naver-ai/beneath-cot.
Seogyeong Jeong, Jaehui Hwang, Dongyoon Han et al.· 0 citations
On-policy distillation is an alternative post-training method in reinforcement learning that alleviates the constraints imposed by reward models by providing token-level supervision from a teacher model. Although on-policy distillation has been studied and applied across various settings, its fundamental design remains underexplored. In this paper, we introduce a new distillation reward, termed the delta signal, instead of directly imitating the teacher's output distribution. The delta signal is defined as the difference between the teacher model and its base model prior to instruction tuning for reasoning capability. It therefore captures the changes induced by reasoning tuning and provides a more direct signal for transferring reasoning capabilities. Using extensive empirical evidence, we show that the delta signal substantially improves on-policy distillation and refer to the new distillation method as On-Policy Delta Distillation (OPD$^2$). Experiments across mathematics, science, and code-reasoning benchmarks demonstrate that OPD$^2$ consistently outperforms conventional on-policy distillation, enabling reasoning LLMs to achieve strong performance with only a short post-training period. Code will be available at https://github.com/naver-ai/opd2
On-Policy Distillation (OPD) is emerging as a promising alternative to reinforcement learning for LLM post-training, yet its effectiveness in multilingual settings remains underexplored. We study OPD and its advanced variant, On-Policy Delta Distillation (OPD$^2$), for mathematical reasoning in English, Korean, and Japanese. OPD$^2$ improves OPD by using the probability gap between a post-trained teacher and its base model as the learning signal. Experiments with Qwen3 show that OPD$^2$ consistently outperforms the original OPD, with particularly strong improvements in Korean and Japanese, and generally narrows the English-Korean performance gap. We further find that English-only OPD can also increase performance for Korean and Japanese, but often shifts the responses toward English, highlighting the importance of multilingual data to preserving target-language responses.
Byeongho Heo, Jaehui Hwang, Sangdoo Yun et al.· 0 citations
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